@Mondobizarrro - The thing I get into the most arguments is that (1) We have systems of change if everyone would go out there and use them. And yes, they're not perfect, but they're what we have, and guess what, work for the change using those same systems and it could happen. It'll be slow as hell, and you'll have setbacks, but it can happen.
But when they push back, I go into (2) okay, you want revolution. I can get behind that if you want to go that way. But. Are you ready to kill your neighbor? They might be on the opposing side. Are you willing to give up your life for what you want? If you lose, and it could happen, you are likely dead. Can you work with others with slightly differing opinions? Cause as Ben Franklin said: "We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately."
Revolution talk is fun, yeah. But the reality is not gonna be fun or easy.
@Mondobizarrro - There's a third option, and the one that I hope for personally, and that's societal collapse. LEt it burn itself out and rebuild from scratch.
I'd hoped that the pandemic would be a good turning point in that, as we pretty much were "burning" in Covid, but what dissapointed me and dissillusioned me, too, was that we were just as happy to go back to what we had before instead of take the changes we made for the better and moving forward with them.
We didn't even fix the pandemic.