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@socketwench - One of the things that really REALLY bothers me with Superman 3, is the trans-insults with Vera, and even the subtle hint that she is trans herself. I didn't see that until recently, and it's made the movie even MORE unpalatable for me.

I thought the camp was stupid. I wanted the more "grounded" Superman 1. Then Superman 4 happened, and I didn't know how good Superman 3 had it.

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