Jenn Dolari @dolari@driveinsaturday.org

@mxtiffanyleigh Sounds like an opportunity! :D

Hey, all! Some fun ST:TMP related news!

As you may know, I'm a fan of Movie Archaeology, digging into early drafts of movies. ST:TMP got me started in that, and was the subject of my first comparison page of all the drafts and movies, which you can see here: http://dolari.net/startrek/tmp/index.html

What CAN'T you see? The actual scripts (unless you ask real nice). Mainly because I can't afford the bandwidth for some of these scripts to be downloaded. However, the folks over at Forgotten Trek have made some of the scripts I have available for reading!

Read Phillip Kaufman's "Star Trek: Treatment for the Motion Picture " (a last ditch attempt to keep Star Trek: Planet of the Titans afloat) here: https://forgottentrek.com/phase-2/planet-of-the-titans-the-film-that-wasnt/

Read both Harold Livingston's Rough Draft and Gene Roddenberry's Second Draft of "In Thy Image" here: https://forgottentrek.com/phase-2/in-thy-image (The Rough Draft was written for the proposed TV show, and the Second Draft was written as the production was moving towards Star Trek: The Motion Picture)

I do have other drafts of the movie, which aren't hosted online right now, but if you'd like to read them, let me know.

So I bought some frozen samosas and it came with mint and tamarind chutney. Love the stuff. But I was wondering...the very first Indian restaurant I went to in State College, PA, had TOMATO chutney. It was REALLY REALLY good. I've never seen it anywhere but that one restaurant.

I need to learn to make that cause it was really good.

Protip: When baking food, remember to put the food IN the oven.

i can cook gud

Where I am NOW....

Where I am now....

The only thing dumber looking than a Cybertruck is a Cybertruck with a camper shell.

One of my favorite pieces of movie soundtrack music reduced to one piano that sounds every bit as good as the orchestral version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMM1uS_kDSE

@socketwench - I always rankle when people group ST3 in the "Bad Trek" category. It's a good movie. It's not the Pulp Sci-Fi of TMP, or Moby Dick in Space like TWOK, but it is a funeral dirge for Spock. Everything is being done to get Spock's body back until they realize he's alive. It's slower, more solemn. As is right for a funeral dirge.

Even at the end we don't know we're gettnig him back, so it's treated solemnly.

It's one of my faves.

But that one with the whales, now....

@socketwench - The destruction of the Enterprise hurt. It really hurt.

Like, I know the 1701-A is the same model as the TMP 1701. But adding that A on there...it's a while new character, and one I dont like as much because we didn't spend time together. Just two movies.

Find storry about the melting saucer section...it was achieved by dropping colored candlewax on a substitute model. The candlewax was composited away with the burning infrastructure underneath.

@antijingoist @socketwench - Personally I never liked it. It made me laugh everytime instead of feel for David's death.

Different strokes....

@socketwench - From what I understand Kirstie Alley turned the role down for rmore money.

However, because Nimoy is FAMOUSLY protective of the vulcans (he got on a lot of make-up crews cases cause he liked Spock's ear tips a certain way and would refuse to put them on if not done right), he made sure Robin Curtis was as flat as possible.

That's sort of good, because I think she NAILS the Vulcan Aesthetic. The problem is, Kirstie, who didn't, just played Saavik better because she emoted. On top of that she's half Romulan in the script.

There's a wonderful scene at the end of the movie, though, where she sees Spock and bows her head. Before the scene, Nimoy went to her and said "Forget everything I taught you about Vulcans. I want you to react like you've just seen a passionate lover who left you years ago passing by on the street."

@antijingoist @socketwench - I didn't say he KEPT BEING GOOD. :D

@socketwench - The bridge was almost complete when Phase II was cancelled to become the motion picture. The only real changes were to make all the control panels black glass, remove a bridge transporter section, and a wierd round human sized targeting reticle behind Chekov's station.

The graphics were already done, and so the Phase II enterprise is on all those control panels. You can tell by looking at the nacelles. The front of the Phase II Enterprise nacelles are thinner than the rest. The TMP ones are larger. If the scene was clearer, you'd see the "notches" on the struts from Phase II.

@socketwench - Nichelle Nichols is one of those actresses who was never really given a moment to show off what she could do.

There are a lot fo bits and pieces throughout TOS and the movies, but in every one, she's giving 110%. Even if it's just a stare to the screen.

This scene in TSFS? This should be shown ANYTIME Nichelle Nichols is memorialized.

@socketwench - WE NEED MORE CAPES

@socketwench - Nick Meyer specifically said that in order to get believable acting from Shatner, you had to run the takes until he got bored. Once he got bored, it was at an acceptable level.

That said, Shatner can really dole it out when he needs to. The mind meld here and the entire Spock/Kirk scene at the end of TWOK are DEVASTATING.