@socketwench - I think I missed this, but then I noticed your mention of the skull faces in the hell imagery. I think I may have pointed that out to you.
The Black Hole is up there with Tron with something I'd LOVE LOVE LOVE to see early drafts of. The concept art for both really point to a very different story at the the start of pre-production, and more Disneyish affair of a kid's adventure with adults.
From what I remember, The Black Hole was on Disney's backburner since 1974. I do know a Vincent like robot was part of it and the mystery of the Cygnus was the main driving point of the script, titled "Space Probe One."
The Black hole wasn't part of the original script, but was added as a minor element quickly, then the main element later. I seem to remember reading somewhere that towards the end of this phase of pre-production, the ending of the movie involved a hand delivering a flower through the black hole.
Another, very uncomfortable part of the script was that a lot of Reighardt's dialogue may have been paraphrases from Hilter speeches to bring home I AM THE VILLAIN. These were removed, but I've always felt the line of "It's about time that people learn about their failures and my successes" was one that got through.
The movie was just kind of in development hell (or at least development slow-burn) until Star Wars when it got fast tracked into the movie we got in 1980. One of the major changes was changing the Cygnus from a standard hulled-spaceship into a fucking cool haunted house. Whoever decided to do that was a freaking genius.
The final ending of the movie was rewritten multiple times, with wildly different endings. One involved The ship going through the blackhole where we pull out to see Michaelangeo's "The Creation of David" with Dr McCrae looking one. The novel ends with the Palomino crew becoming a gestalt energy mind, which may have been another script ending.
I never saw the hell imagery as Reighardt ruling in hell. I always got the feeling he was trapped there inside Maximillian. Immortal, but forced to watch Maximillian rule in hell forever. Alive, but his goal just out of reach.
A personal nice touch for me in this movie? Space. Space is BRIGHT in this movie. Nebulae color the stars so we're allowed to see silhouettes of the Cygnus, and it looks RIGHT. Love that look.
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While I think Skyward Sword's soundtrack is the best in the series, and that Breath of Wild's was the weakest, I will say they saved EVERYTHING for this piece of music, which doesn't just weave a bunch of themes together, but delivers it at 150%..
How many interlocking pieces of Zelda lietmotif can you count in this?
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@Orb2069 - ten years of an 8AM wake up at Nintendo casts doubt on that sticking part. ;)
Working on cleaning house on time for tomorrow's job start and watching the Richard Donner cut of Superman II.
Even with all its flaws, I prefer this cut to the others. The bad guys really feel threatening, the movie feels far more serious. It's really weak in the Niagra Falls sequence (which is Richard Lester footage, and just the bare minimum to tell the story) and the East Houston sequence (which originally took place outside Washington DC and never filmed), but otherwise far stronger than the theatrical.
It was never about "won't someone think of the children?!"
Woke up with this in my head, so now it's in yours: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzLT6_TQmq8
@thegibson @socketwench - When that scene hits our screens, everyone in our house sings,. to the DuckTails theme:
"Duck Tits! Wooo-oooo!"
Me after seeing Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Governor Janet Mills standing up to Trump to his face: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qillJj5RXUs
@socketwench - it also doesn't help that I was completely stricken by 80s lacepunk. I love 80s lace punk. I WANT 80s LACE PUNK TO COME BACK.
@socketwench - Outside of the hair that could pick up over-the-horizon-soviet-radar Lea Thompson in HTD was Baby Trans Goals for me.
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